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DEMOCRACY
What next for HK? Promised talks bring scepticism over change
by Staff Writers
Hong Kong (AFP) Oct 03, 2014


Hong Kong protests 'doomed to fail': China party paper
Beijing (AFP) Oct 03, 2014 - The official mouthpiece of China's ruling Communist party said Friday that authorities will not make concessions to pro-democracy protesters in Hong Kong and that their cause is "doomed to fail".

Students whose peaceful protests have paralysed parts of the global financial hub have agreed to hold talks with the government while vowing to continue their occupation, as the city's under-fire leader refused to stand down.

But the protesters' demands for unfettered elections are "neither legal nor reasonable", said the People's Daily newspaper, in a defiant front page editorial.

China's rubber-stamp parliament, the National People's Congress ruled in August that candidates for Hong Kong elections would be selected by a committee, a move slammed by protesters as "fake democracy".

The People's Daily said that: "Upholding the decision of the standing committee of the National People's Congress is the necessary decision, and the only decision."

The protests are "against legal principles, and doomed to fail", it said, adding: "There is no room to make concessions on important principles."

Analysts say that Beijing is wary of granting protesters' demands, as it fears that backing down in the face of demonstrations could create a precedent for public protest which would be unacceptable to the Communist leadership.

China's official military newspaper, the People's Liberation Army Daily, reported on its front page that more than 1000 troops in Hong Kong had received "political training," stressing loyalty to the Communist party.

The training aimed to "make the voice of the party the strongest voice in the barracks, and ensure absolute loyalty from the troops," it said.

Beijing stations soldiers in Hong Kong but local politicians have so far ruled out military intervention.

Huge crowds have shut down central areas of the Chinese city with mass sit-ins all week and had set a midnight Thursday deadline for Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying to quit and for Beijing to guarantee the former British colony full democracy.

With his office besieged by thousands of protesters and tensions with police high, a defiant Leung appeared minutes before midnight rejecting calls to go, but offered talks to one prominent student group in a bid to break the impasse.

The chief executive said he would appoint Chief Administration Secretary Carrie Lam to lead talks with the Hong Kong Federation of Students (HKFS), one of several groups behind the demonstrations in the financial hub.

In a statement released early Friday, HKFS said they would meet Lam but renewed calls for Leung's resignation, vowing to continue their occupation if their demands were not met.

Last-ditch talks agreed between the Hong Kong government and student protesters may have temporarily relieved tensions -- but what can the authorities really offer pro-democracy campaigners? And would Beijing ever agree to significant concessions?

The city has seen nearly a week of mass demonstrations and although numbers have started to dwindle after a two-day public holiday, some are not ready to go home.

Thousands crowded outside the central government offices on Thursday ahead of a midnight deadline for Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying to resign. Leung's offer just before then of talks defused a potentially explosive standoff between protesters and police.

But even as Leung spoke of his plan for Chief Secretary Carrie Lam to enter discussions with the Hong Kong Federation of Students (HKFS), there was scepticism over what dialogue can achieve.

"What the people want is a concrete reply on what the government can offer us," student leader Yvonne Leung told AFP.

- Strict parameters -

Beijing says only candidates vetted by a loyalist committee will be allowed to stand for Hong Kong's leadership elections in 2017, a decision dismissed as "fake democracy" by activists who want candidates to be nominated by the public at large.

China says the nominating committee would be similar to the 1,200-strong group of pro-Beijing worthies that currently appoints the chief executive.

Analysts believe that Beijing is highly unlikely to budge from that framework, laid down in August.

"Beijing already set out the legal and political bottom line... and negotiations have to adhere to those parameters," said political analyst Sonny Lo at the Hong Kong Institute of Education.

"The government has now decided on dialogue, which is good, but the students may need some tactical mediators. They have to understand the Chinese style of negotiation.

"It's not that they have to completely let go of the idea of civic nomination (of candidates by the public), but they have to think of some other tactic, like a civic recommendation that is put forward to the nominating committee," says Lo.

- 'Cosmetic concessions' -

Others feel that any concessions that are granted will ultimately be meaningless.

"Beijing may be agreeable to cosmetic change, but it would have no impact," said Willy Lam, a China scholar at the Chinese University of Hong Kong.

"It would be a face-saving measure to give the appearance that Beijing is making concessions, but it would be 100 percent unacceptable to student leaders and the leaders of Occupy Central."

Analysts say that this would leave the campaigners with no option but to continue their civil disobedience campaign -- but that risks alienating the public, who have so far been largely supportive.

"It's like a poker game," said Lam. "It depends on whether they can still call tens of thousands onto the street. The support of the Hong Kong public is crucial to the protest movement."

- Divide and conquer? -

Student group HKFS is the only organisation set for talks with the government, after it sent an open letter to Carrie Lam. But the protest movement is made up of a range of groups including Occupy Central (a cross-section of society), Scholarism (students) and some lawmakers.

Some analysts believe that this may be a calculated move by Leung to "divide and conquer" the broad-based democratic group.

"The protesters' weak link is that there is no unified command," said Lam.

While he described HKFS as a "radical group", their letter -- which dropped the demand for Leung to resign -- showed signs of compromise.

Lam said Leung would now go after the support of moderates within the movement.

"He is trying to reach the so-called 'soft democrats'" who might accept low-level concessions that the students would not, says Lam.

- Leung won't go -

While protesters portray Leung as a Beijing stooge, analysts say he is part of the ruling machine and will be given a free hand to act as he sees fit, within the parameters laid down by China.

"C.Y. is not a puppet of Beijing, he is part of the leadership of China and is a trusted hand with direct contact," said local councillor Paul Zimmerman.

Some analysts say Leung has become a liability to Beijing and may eventually be put out to pasture, but they agree that there is little prospect of that happening soon.

A game changer could be if the demonstrations in Hong Kong start to have a significant impact on the mainland -- where news of the protests has been tightly controlled -- and if President Xi Jinping comes under increasing fire from critics in his own party as the crisis stretches on.

"If news starts to (cause) unrest in China and political activism on that side... then there will be more and more pressure to take action," said Zimmerman.

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